diff --git a/definitions/grib1/section.1.def b/definitions/grib1/section.1.def
index 30f8fa627..5e116c985 100644
--- a/definitions/grib1/section.1.def
+++ b/definitions/grib1/section.1.def
@@ -149,7 +149,7 @@ if(table2Version >= 128) {
 
 concept paramIdECMF (defaultParameter,"paramId.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirECMF): no_copy;
 concept paramId (paramIdECMF,"paramId.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirAll): long_type,dump;
-transient pid = paramId : hidden;
+# transient pid = paramId : hidden;
 
 concept cfNameECMF(defaultName,"cfName.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirECMF) : dump,no_copy,read_only;
 concept cfName(cfNameECMF,"cfName.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirAll) : dump,no_copy,read_only;
diff --git a/definitions/grib2/parameters.def b/definitions/grib2/parameters.def
index 2b29da1ba..500c6d27c 100644
--- a/definitions/grib2/parameters.def
+++ b/definitions/grib2/parameters.def
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ constant conceptsLocalDirECMF="grib2/localConcepts/ecmf" : hidden;
 
 concept paramIdECMF (defaultParameter,"paramId.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirECMF): long_type,no_copy;
 concept paramId (paramIdECMF,"paramId.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirAll): long_type;
-transient pid = paramId : hidden;
+# transient pid = paramId : hidden;
 
 concept shortNameECMF (defaultShortName,"shortName.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirECMF) : no_copy,dump;
 concept ls.shortName (shortNameECMF,"shortName.def",conceptsMasterDir,conceptsLocalDirAll) : no_copy,dump;
diff --git a/definitions/param_limits.def b/definitions/param_limits.def
index 3b7199a38..8d57fea11 100644
--- a/definitions/param_limits.def
+++ b/definitions/param_limits.def
@@ -2,161 +2,161 @@ constant default_min_val = -1e9 : double_type, hidden;
 constant default_max_val = +1e9 : double_type, hidden;
 
 concept param_value_min(default_min_val) {
-    -150 = { pid=165; }
-    -100 = { pid=166; }
-    0 = { pid=260260; }
-    0 = { pid=228028; }
-    0 = { pid=49; }
-    0 = { pid=207; }
-    25 = { pid=168; }
-    0 = { pid=260242; }
-    160 = { pid=167; }
-    0 = { pid=260509; }
-    5 = { pid=151175; }
-    0 = { pid=260257; }
-    0 = { pid=59; }
-    -60000 = { pid=228001; }
-    0 = { pid=151163; }
-    -3.5 = { pid=151131; }
-    -10 = { pid=260259; }
-    -13000 = { pid=129; }
-    -1300 = { pid=156; }
-    0 = { pid=3075; }
-    0 = { pid=172; }
-    -0.05 = { pid=3062; }
-    0 = { pid=260210; }
-    0 = { pid=3073; }
-    160 = { pid=121; }
-    85000 = { pid=151; }
-    270 = { pid=151126; }
-    -1 = { pid=140230; }
-    0 = { pid=140221; }
-    0 = { pid=3074; }
-    150 = { pid=122; }
-    0 = { pid=140214; }
-    -3.5 = { pid=151132; }
-    0 = { pid=151225; }
-    -1300 = { pid=228002; }
-    0 = { pid=140231; }
-    0 = { pid=260430; }
-    170 = { pid=3; }
-    -1 = { pid=60; }
-    100 = { pid=54; }
-    0 = { pid=157; }
-    -4 = { pid=151145; }
-    0 = { pid=151219; }
-    160 = { pid=34; }
-    0 = { pid=31; }
-    0 = { pid=174098; }
-    0 = { pid=140229; }
-    120 = { pid=235; }
-    20 = { pid=228032; }
-    10 = { pid=33; }
-    0 = { pid=3066; }
-    -1e-10 = { pid=228141; }
-    0.005 = { pid=260367; }
-    -1000 = { pid=260364; }
-    0 = { pid=228039; }
-    0 = { pid=228087; }
-    -20 = { pid=228086; }
-    170 = { pid=260360; }
-    170 = { pid=228139; }
-    170 = { pid=228096; }
-    170 = { pid=228095; }
-    0 = { pid=43; }
-    0 = { pid=247; }
-    0 = { pid=246; }
-    -0.1 = { pid=133; }
-    0 = { pid=189; }
-    43000 = { pid=134; }
-    0 = { pid=173; }
-    140 = { pid=130; }
-    -3 = { pid=260057; }
-    -50 = { pid=136; }
-    -250 = { pid=131; }
-    -250 = { pid=132; }
-    -30 = { pid=135; }
-    0 = { pid=260199; }
-    0 = { pid=3031; }
-    0 = { pid=10; }
+    -150 = { paramId=165; }
+    -100 = { paramId=166; }
+    0 = { paramId=260260; }
+    0 = { paramId=228028; }
+    0 = { paramId=49; }
+    0 = { paramId=207; }
+    25 = { paramId=168; }
+    0 = { paramId=260242; }
+    160 = { paramId=167; }
+    0 = { paramId=260509; }
+    5 = { paramId=151175; }
+    0 = { paramId=260257; }
+    0 = { paramId=59; }
+    -60000 = { paramId=228001; }
+    0 = { paramId=151163; }
+    -3.5 = { paramId=151131; }
+    -10 = { paramId=260259; }
+    -13000 = { paramId=129; }
+    -1300 = { paramId=156; }
+    0 = { paramId=3075; }
+    0 = { paramId=172; }
+    -0.05 = { paramId=3062; }
+    0 = { paramId=260210; }
+    0 = { paramId=3073; }
+    160 = { paramId=121; }
+    85000 = { paramId=151; }
+    270 = { paramId=151126; }
+    -1 = { paramId=140230; }
+    0 = { paramId=140221; }
+    0 = { paramId=3074; }
+    150 = { paramId=122; }
+    0 = { paramId=140214; }
+    -3.5 = { paramId=151132; }
+    0 = { paramId=151225; }
+    -1300 = { paramId=228002; }
+    0 = { paramId=140231; }
+    0 = { paramId=260430; }
+    170 = { paramId=3; }
+    -1 = { paramId=60; }
+    100 = { paramId=54; }
+    0 = { paramId=157; }
+    -4 = { paramId=151145; }
+    0 = { paramId=151219; }
+    160 = { paramId=34; }
+    0 = { paramId=31; }
+    0 = { paramId=174098; }
+    0 = { paramId=140229; }
+    120 = { paramId=235; }
+    20 = { paramId=228032; }
+    10 = { paramId=33; }
+    0 = { paramId=3066; }
+    -1e-10 = { paramId=228141; }
+    0.005 = { paramId=260367; }
+    -1000 = { paramId=260364; }
+    0 = { paramId=228039; }
+    0 = { paramId=228087; }
+    -20 = { paramId=228086; }
+    170 = { paramId=260360; }
+    170 = { paramId=228139; }
+    170 = { paramId=228096; }
+    170 = { paramId=228095; }
+    0 = { paramId=43; }
+    0 = { paramId=247; }
+    0 = { paramId=246; }
+    -0.1 = { paramId=133; }
+    0 = { paramId=189; }
+    43000 = { paramId=134; }
+    0 = { paramId=173; }
+    140 = { paramId=130; }
+    -3 = { paramId=260057; }
+    -50 = { paramId=136; }
+    -250 = { paramId=131; }
+    -250 = { paramId=132; }
+    -30 = { paramId=135; }
+    0 = { paramId=260199; }
+    0 = { paramId=3031; }
+    0 = { paramId=10; }
 } : double_type, hidden;
 
 concept param_value_max(default_max_val) {
-    150 = { pid=165; }
-    100 = { pid=166; }
-    360.1 = { pid=260260; }
-    140 = { pid=228028; }
-    100 = { pid=49; }
-    300 = { pid=207; }
-    350 = { pid=168; }
-    160 = { pid=260242; }
-    370 = { pid=167; }
-    100 = { pid=260509; }
-    50 = { pid=151175; }
-    100 = { pid=260257; }
-    40000 = { pid=59; }
-    5 = { pid=228001; }
-    1500 = { pid=151163; }
-    3.5 = { pid=151131; }
-    5 = { pid=260259; }
-    350000 = { pid=129; }
-    35000 = { pid=156; }
-    100 = { pid=3075; }
-    1 = { pid=172; }
-    130 = { pid=3062; }
-    1 = { pid=260210; }
-    100 = { pid=3073; }
-    380 = { pid=121; }
-    125000 = { pid=151; }
-    308 = { pid=151126; }
-    360.5 = { pid=140230; }
-    35 = { pid=140221; }
-    100 = { pid=3074; }
-    330 = { pid=122; }
-    35 = { pid=140214; }
-    3.5 = { pid=151132; }
-    4000 = { pid=151225; }
-    8888 = { pid=228002; }
-    50 = { pid=140231; }
-    30 = { pid=260430; }
-    1200 = { pid=3; }
-    1 = { pid=60; }
-    108000 = { pid=54; }
-    180 = { pid=157; }
-    4 = { pid=151145; }
-    50 = { pid=151219; }
-    320 = { pid=34; }
-    1.001 = { pid=31; }
-    15 = { pid=174098; }
-    35 = { pid=140229; }
-    380 = { pid=235; }
-    100 = { pid=228032; }
-    1000 = { pid=33; }
-    5 = { pid=3066; }
-    15000 = { pid=228141; }
-    100 = { pid=260367; }
-    1000 = { pid=260364; }
-    2000 = { pid=228039; }
-    2000 = { pid=228087; }
-    2000 = { pid=228086; }
-    350 = { pid=260360; }
-    350 = { pid=228139; }
-    350 = { pid=228096; }
-    350 = { pid=228095; }
-    10 = { pid=43; }
-    0.01 = { pid=247; }
-    1e+06 = { pid=246; }
-    0.1 = { pid=133; }
-    3600 = { pid=189; }
-    115000 = { pid=134; }
-    10 = { pid=173; }
-    400 = { pid=130; }
-    150 = { pid=260057; }
-    220 = { pid=136; }
-    250 = { pid=131; }
-    250 = { pid=132; }
-    30 = { pid=135; }
-    1 = { pid=260199; }
-    360.1 = { pid=3031; }
-    300 = { pid=10; }
+    150 = { paramId=165; }
+    100 = { paramId=166; }
+    360.1 = { paramId=260260; }
+    140 = { paramId=228028; }
+    100 = { paramId=49; }
+    300 = { paramId=207; }
+    350 = { paramId=168; }
+    160 = { paramId=260242; }
+    370 = { paramId=167; }
+    100 = { paramId=260509; }
+    50 = { paramId=151175; }
+    100 = { paramId=260257; }
+    40000 = { paramId=59; }
+    5 = { paramId=228001; }
+    1500 = { paramId=151163; }
+    3.5 = { paramId=151131; }
+    5 = { paramId=260259; }
+    350000 = { paramId=129; }
+    35000 = { paramId=156; }
+    100 = { paramId=3075; }
+    1 = { paramId=172; }
+    130 = { paramId=3062; }
+    1 = { paramId=260210; }
+    100 = { paramId=3073; }
+    380 = { paramId=121; }
+    125000 = { paramId=151; }
+    308 = { paramId=151126; }
+    360.5 = { paramId=140230; }
+    35 = { paramId=140221; }
+    100 = { paramId=3074; }
+    330 = { paramId=122; }
+    35 = { paramId=140214; }
+    3.5 = { paramId=151132; }
+    4000 = { paramId=151225; }
+    8888 = { paramId=228002; }
+    50 = { paramId=140231; }
+    30 = { paramId=260430; }
+    1200 = { paramId=3; }
+    1 = { paramId=60; }
+    108000 = { paramId=54; }
+    180 = { paramId=157; }
+    4 = { paramId=151145; }
+    50 = { paramId=151219; }
+    320 = { paramId=34; }
+    1.001 = { paramId=31; }
+    15 = { paramId=174098; }
+    35 = { paramId=140229; }
+    380 = { paramId=235; }
+    100 = { paramId=228032; }
+    1000 = { paramId=33; }
+    5 = { paramId=3066; }
+    15000 = { paramId=228141; }
+    100 = { paramId=260367; }
+    1000 = { paramId=260364; }
+    2000 = { paramId=228039; }
+    2000 = { paramId=228087; }
+    2000 = { paramId=228086; }
+    350 = { paramId=260360; }
+    350 = { paramId=228139; }
+    350 = { paramId=228096; }
+    350 = { paramId=228095; }
+    10 = { paramId=43; }
+    0.01 = { paramId=247; }
+    1e+06 = { paramId=246; }
+    0.1 = { paramId=133; }
+    3600 = { paramId=189; }
+    115000 = { paramId=134; }
+    10 = { paramId=173; }
+    400 = { paramId=130; }
+    150 = { paramId=260057; }
+    220 = { paramId=136; }
+    250 = { paramId=131; }
+    250 = { paramId=132; }
+    30 = { paramId=135; }
+    1 = { paramId=260199; }
+    360.1 = { paramId=3031; }
+    300 = { paramId=10; }
 } : double_type, hidden;
diff --git a/tests/grib_data_quality_checks.sh b/tests/grib_data_quality_checks.sh
index a3cae1196..b3a38c686 100755
--- a/tests/grib_data_quality_checks.sh
+++ b/tests/grib_data_quality_checks.sh
@@ -101,6 +101,9 @@ set -e
 [ $stat1 -ne 0 ]
 [ $stat2 -ne 0 ]
 
+# Should succeed. Change paramId first and then scale all values down
+${tools_dir}/grib_set -s paramId=$pid,scaleValuesBy=0.01 $input1 $tempOut
+${tools_dir}/grib_set -s paramId=$pid,scaleValuesBy=0.01 $input2 $tempOut
 
 echo "Test close to the limit..."
 # ---------------------------------